Legislature(1999 - 2000)

04/15/2000 09:11 AM Senate FIN

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SENATE BILL NO. 207                                                                                                             
"An Act relating to the establishment and enforcement                                                                           
of medical support orders for children; and providing                                                                           
for an effective date."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
This was the first hearing for this bill in the Senate                                                                          
Finance Committee.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
BARBARA MIKLOS, Director, Division of Child Support                                                                             
Enforcement, Department of Revenue, testified via                                                                               
teleconference from Anchorage to tell the Committee that                                                                        
the division believed that it would help all parties,                                                                           
including those who are paid child support, those who pay                                                                       
child support and the agency. She stated that the bill                                                                          
would eliminate confusion.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Miklos explained that under existing statutes, an order                                                                     
for medical support could only be established in                                                                                
conjunction with a financial support order. This bill, she                                                                      
stated changes the provision so that a medical support                                                                          
order might be established on its own. She stressed that                                                                        
this is important in the case of Medicaid recipients                                                                            
because the division is required to submit an order of                                                                          
medical support anytime a client goes on Medicaid. Current                                                                      
statue, she noted ties medical support together with                                                                            
financial support, thus requiring the division to submit                                                                        
the financial support order even if the parents did not                                                                         
want it. She elaborated that in these instances, the                                                                            
financial order is issued, but not enforced. However, she                                                                       
pointed out, the debt continues to accumulate and if the                                                                        
parent goes on public assistance, the division begins to                                                                        
collect on that debt. Under this bill, she said the debt                                                                        
would not accumulate.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Miklos continued that the bill establishes a medical                                                                        
support statute to provide that either parent, not simply                                                                       
the obligor parent, may be required to provide health                                                                           
coverage. Currently, she detailed Alaska statute only                                                                           
places that responsibility on the obligor parent, although                                                                      
the courts have ruled in Civil Rule 90.3 that either parent                                                                     
could be responsible. She pointed out that this legislation                                                                     
makes the statute and the court order consistent. She noted                                                                     
that the division follows the civil rule and requires that                                                                      
either parent may have to provide health insurance.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Miklos stated that the bill also amends the law to                                                                          
require that a medical support order be issued regardless                                                                       
of whether health care coverage is currently available. She                                                                     
explained this is a clarification to make the statute clear                                                                     
that the division can issue the order to require health                                                                         
care coverage be provided to the child if it becomes                                                                            
available to either parent. She said this is in place of                                                                        
waiting until the health care coverage is available before                                                                      
pursuing the matter.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator Phillips asked what other states have this                                                                              
provision.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Miklos answered that the division did a survey of all                                                                       
states and had 24 responses. Of those responses, she said                                                                       
16 states could issue separate medical and financial orders                                                                     
and three states could not. In the five remaining states                                                                        
that responded, she said the court issues all these orders.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Phillips asked why the practice of only allowing                                                                        
the courts to issue medical and financial orders was not                                                                        
implemented in this legislation.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Miklos responded that it is a simpler process and less                                                                      
costly for the division to establish child support orders.                                                                      
She pointed out that if the court issued the order, every                                                                       
change would require the parties to return to court. She                                                                        
added that most states allow the divisions to issue the                                                                         
orders.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Phillips remarked that the child support                                                                                
enforcement office was not the most popular of state                                                                            
agencies.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green asked how the Denali KidCare program fit into                                                                     
this legislation.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Miklos replied Denali KidCare is a Medicaid program and                                                                     
therefore requires a medical support order.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Phillips asked which states require the court to                                                                        
issue the orders.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Miklos listed Washington D.C., Massachusetts,                                                                               
Louisiana, Virginia and Maryland. Most of the West Coast                                                                        
states, she noted have a provision to allow the agency to                                                                       
issue the orders                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Torgerson asked about the mechanics of the                                                                             
language contained on page 5 lines 5 through 8, "The                                                                            
hearing officer shall allocate equally the cost of the                                                                          
health care coverage between the parents unless the hearing                                                                     
officer finds good cause to order a different allocation of                                                                     
these costs."                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Miklos explained the appeals process, which begins with                                                                     
an administrative review by the division and then a review                                                                      
conducted by a hearing officer outside the division but                                                                         
within the Department of Revenue. She said the rulings are                                                                      
made based on which parent has health insurance available                                                                       
at a reasonable cost.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Torgerson asked if currently, the courts normally                                                                      
determine which parent is the obligor for the health                                                                            
insurance coverage.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Miklos replied that it depended upon who established                                                                        
the order. If the courts issued the order, she said the                                                                         
court would use the same procedure to make the                                                                                  
determination. She qualified that the hearing officer is                                                                        
involved only when the order was issued by the agency.  In                                                                      
both cases, she stressed appeals could be made to the                                                                           
court.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Torgerson then wanted to know how the financial                                                                        
obligor was established.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Miklos answered that it usually depended upon which                                                                         
parent has custody of the child, or in cases of joint                                                                           
custody, which parent has the greater income. She stated                                                                        
that the obligator is usually determined strictly by                                                                            
financial circumstances. By allowing the division to issue                                                                      
medical support orders separately from financial support                                                                        
orders, the decision of medical obligator could be                                                                              
determined based on which parent has reasonable health care                                                                     
coverage.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Miklos stressed that the state benefits from the                                                                            
children having independent health care insurance, because                                                                      
there is less need for public assistance.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Adams offered a motion to report from Committee, SB
207 with accompanying zero fiscal note from the Department                                                                      
of Revenue.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Phillips objected. He stated that he would rather                                                                       
the courts made the decision on the support orders.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green asked if there were any instances where both                                                                      
parents are required to carry health care insurance on a                                                                        
child.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Miklos responded the parents are not being required to                                                                      
have health care coverage unless it is available at a                                                                           
reasonable cost. She added that in some cases, insurance                                                                        
may not be available at all.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Miklos then commented on Senator Phillips's concerns                                                                        
saying that this legislation does not change how the courts                                                                     
or the division determines the support orders other than to                                                                     
separate the two orders. This bill, she stressed does not                                                                       
give any more power to the child support enforcement                                                                            
agency.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
A roll call was taken on the motion.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Senator Green, Senator Donley, Senator Leman,                                                                         
Senator Adams, Senator Wilken, Senator P. Kelly, Co-Chair                                                                       
Parnell and Co-Chair Torgerson                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
OPPOSED: Senator Phillips                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The motion PASSED (8-1)                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The bill MOVED from Committee.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE 9:25 AM / 9:37 AM                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                

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